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Monday September 15 2003 at 00:51 GMT

I was looking for a solution to my P800 RSS reading activites -- or actually some answers to 'is it practical'? I kicked off on the basis that I didn't want to pull huge feeds of data over my GPRS connection when, in reality, I often read the short entry, but not the full article. So, finding some kind of online aggregator that I could use via Opera seemed to make sense.

I'd read in an Online Journalism Review article about a few different options, and I found a few more. As I was putting together some kind of comparison, I realised a primary/secondary potential target market for this -- newbies! So, here's a quick rundown on my findings, in alphabetical order. My key criteria boiled down to ease of use, in terms of both setup (adding feeds) & daily and responsiveness of the site. All of the sites I checked are currently free, although I would fully expect them to start charging/asking for donations at some point.

None of the sites I reviewed really worked on my phone, though. I have no doubt that that will change over time. If you're just looking for the outcome of my findings it is thus: use Bloglines. The tool is simple, yet powerful enough for most users. To see how it works, just click here and you can see my setup.

Bloglines - http://www.bloglines.com/

Setup
Adding feeds either by entering a URI directly or importing an OPML feed worked superbly. Gathering related feeds together into folders is a point and click operation that works in a nice straightforward manner.

Daily use
The total number of new article is presented at folder level. Clicking on the folder name displays all articles associated with the feeds in the folder in one long listing. Expanding the folder by using the + allows individual feeds to be viewed. Items can be bookmarked, and then appear in the system bookmark folder. For each article, as much detail as the feed provides is displayed. The layout is good, allowing articles to be easily read.

Responsiveness
The site was speedy throughout.

Gripes
The two pain points I found were that feeds are only updated once an hour, and the top frame which says Bloglines is MASSIVE, taking up way too much screen real estate. I dropped them a note, and Mark Fletcher assured me it was one of their priorities to change, and that it should be visible in the next week or so. I'm going to see what they say about the hourly gathering. Perhaps after some time regularly updated feeds can be identified and updated more often.

Summary
I would recommend this site over all of the others listed here. It is nicely designed and does its job well. It is suitable for beginners and advanced users alike. View my setup here.

feed-me.info - http://feed-me.info/

Setup
Setup initially confused me (I didn't add a view), but after that I was able to import my OPML file. Groupings set up within the OPML file were ignored, and I was back to setting up views.

Daily use
I ended up with some very very long pages, making the whole process rather slow, as well as very hard to read. Full items were displayed in a page-wide, long list manner. Items can be added to a bookmark folder, rated (questionable functionality), emailed or printed from the article display.

Responsiveness
The site seemed to be slower than others, and given the huge pages I ended up with, this likely added to the problem.

Gripes
Again, this seems like beta software. It didn't seem very happy with me using Mozilla Firebird.

Summary
Just not quite there.

freshnews.org - http://www.freshnews.org/

Setup
Can't add specific RSS locations or upload OPML.

Daily use
All news presented on one page, in small boxes. Colours can be themed.

Responsiveness
Fast enough.

Gripes
The number of feeds available is heavily limited.

Summary
This is a nice site for reading a limited amount of tech news. Seems like a personal project which has been shared out to the world.

Fyuze - http://fyuze.com/

Setup
Didn't seem to want to find any URIs entered directly, and no OPML import.

Daily use
Box-like structure. Article headings only -- no content.

Responsiveness
Fine.

Gripes
Any gripes I had have to be tempered with the clearly labelled beta release of this aggregator.

Summary
This is very much a work-in-progress, which will be worth revisiting again. The ability to link into Yahoo! Groups is neat ... but didn't work when I tried it.

MyWireService - http://www.mywireservice.com/

Setup
RSS feeds could be easily added. My OPML file just would not upload, though. No error or problem, just no joy.

Daily use
I didn't quite 'get' the interface, and I couldn't be bothered to enter a stack of feeds after my OPML was rejected.

Responsiveness
Fine.

Gripes
Site seemed cluttered and overly complicated, plus OPML import didn't work.

Summary
Could well be a runner in a while, but not now.

NewsIsFree - http://www.newsisfree.com/

Setup
NewsIsFree is one of the big news syndication sites. Adding feeds is done using their IDs, as opposed to simply entering an RSS URI. OPML was not on the cards.

Daily use
The site seems to use the least readable format possible -- items are displayed in full, but in a kind-of boxed style. This means a blog with multiple entries displays as about three inches wide, but the entire length of the page. Feeds are grouped by page.

Responsiveness
Fine

Gripes
No OPML import.

Summary
Not the most intuitive site to use and hard to read entries.

NewsLine - http://www.intersmash.com/newsline/

Setup
Easy to add RSS feeds. No OPML import.

Daily use
This site simply displays the entire RSS feed in a nicely formatted way. There is no way to mark items as read, or bookmark them.

Responsiveness
Fine

Gripes
This site is clearly positioning itself as a beginners site, and it works fairly well at that.

Summary
A basic site, with nothing too exciting, but it works.


Comments


Thanks for doing the leg work. I was also looking for an app for the P800 but really stuggled to find one. Came across something called 'Peek and Pick' http://wireless.java.sun.com/applications/peekandpick/ on the Sun site. Looked good but couldn't get it to work.
Simon | Monday September 15 at 06:01 GMT | Web| Comment permalink


I got P&P to work on my 7210, but haven't tried it on my 3650. IIRC, I had to perform some arcane jiggerypokery to get it to work.

So Martin, think there's scope for a 'better' RSS site than those you've reviewed? One which works on the desktop and on mobile?
dwlt | Monday September 15 at 09:01 GMT | Web| Comment permalink


www.oddpost.com is another one you may want to check out (does email too).
dwlt | Monday September 15 at 15:34 GMT | Web| Comment permalink


Dave, this was suggested to me before ( see comments here: http://martinlittle.com/thinkthin/2003_09_01_archive.php#040903142445). To use Oddpost, you have to use IE, so it was kind of a non-starter (for me). I'll consider taking a look at it if I have some time. Thanks for the reminder.
Martin Little | Monday September 15 at 15:38 GMT | Web| Comment permalink


Simon - I must do a P800 RSS-specific post (seeing as that was my original objective). In that space I've tried mreader -- http://www.markallanson.net/archives/000021.html -- but I had some problems with it crashing and it seemed kind of fiddly to use. You may also want to take a look at Friday -- http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3szvh/friday/ -- although I'm not sure if that will work on a P800.

So many ideas, so little time... If you've got any feedback, I'd be interested to hear it. :-)
Martin Little | Monday September 15 at 15:42 GMT | Web| Comment permalink


Hey wanna send me your OPML, looks like we have a bug, we'd like to fix it ;-).

Thanks for taking the time for the review.
Gay Gilmore | Monday September 15 at 18:27 GMT | Web| Comment permalink


Great review Martin. Some I've already tried, others I'm going to try. Although I am now reasoably happy with the BlogStreet Info Aggregator service which allows me to aggregate my feeds into an IMAP email account. I find this a very efficient way to scan my feed on my Nokia 3650.
James Corbett | Thursday September 18 at 18:30 GMT | Web| Comment permalink


Hi Martin,

I just released a new web-based news aggregator called Newsable. It's still very much in beta (and no OPML support yet, although that's on todo list) but if you have the chance please do take a look. I'd also love to hear your comments and suggestions.
Rob Adams | Sunday October 5 at 18:44 GMT | Web| Comment permalink

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